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Just for Heinkeljb

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 5:02 am
by AustHaflinger
Here you go John - some bubble cars just for you :)
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https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MESSERSCHMI ... %7Ciid%3A1
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https://www.shannons.com.au/auctions/20 ... 9931CQ1VD/

Garry

Re: Just for Heinkeljb

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 3:50 pm
by heinkeljb
Not Heinkels! Also couldn’t afford either at the moment.

But nice find.

John

Re: Just for Heinkeljb

Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:14 pm
by wojo12
Here's one of our local classic cars for you, John

Re: Just for Heinkeljb

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 9:40 am
by AustHaflinger
I would love a Tiger but there is no way I could afford one of them.
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John's car looks as if it is a cross between the Messerschmitt kr200 and the BMW.

Garry

Re: Just for Heinkeljb

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:02 pm
by heinkeljb
Heinkel’s are a slightly different shape to BMW Isetta’s. Other than the fact they both have a front opening door and most where 3 wheelers (they made 4wheeler versions of both vehicles). The Heinkel is lighter than the BMW as that has a separate chassis.

BMW Isetta’s has the steering wheel fixed to the door and using a couple of UJ’s the steering wheel lifted up out of the way with door. In a Heinkel you have slide in behind the steering wheel.
BMW started with a 250cc fourstroke engine. The Heinkel 174cc! Similar top speeds!

John

Re: Just for Heinkeljb

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:47 am
by AustHaflinger
This is a timely video on Youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=009uDuK_weE

Re: Just for Heinkeljb

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:43 am
by heinkeljb
Now try and find one of Heinkel and not a Trojan....

Although basically the same vehicle, there are differences.

John

Re: Just for Heinkeljb

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:10 pm
by AustHaflinger
I assume the Trojan was made under licence from Heinkel.

What I find amazing with all these bubble cars is that even with their small engines they still manage to have similar onroad performance as a standard Haflinger with its much larger 650cc engine. I guess is its heavier weight and power drain having to push the front drive system.

Garry

Re: Just for Heinkeljb

Posted: Thu Sep 26, 2019 3:40 pm
by heinkeljb
Heinkel sold the manufacturing rights to the Irish ( they were hoping to become Global car manufactures) and the chose the Heinkel to do it with... Anyway, the Heinkel-Ireland as it became known was made in Dandaulk for a couple of years until the manufacturing line was sold to Trojan, who renamed it the Trojan 200.
On road performance is down to several things, power (original Heinkel had 174cc / 9bhp - later ones had 198cc / 10bhp), aerodynamics and weight - ~300kg. Gearing also has a bearing on top speed!

John